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October 4, 2010 Article by Lincoln Murphy

SaaS vendors know getting the sale is just the first step; keeping the customer means keeping them happy and that a happy customer will generate more revenue over time!

A client that I am working with on their Pricing Strategy just sent me the following question (you can send me questions, too):

Lincoln – This isn’t a pricing question, however I think you may have some relevant experience in your agile mind on this one. How many people would it take to support each 1000 users of our SaaS business solution? As you can imagine the numbers will no doubt provide some economies of scale as we move through 100, 1000, 10,000 to 100,000 users – but it will not be an unsupported environment like a social site or free consumer offer. The users will be entering their own key business data… as well as dealing with glitches and submitting suggestions, etc. So the question is, do you have any knowledge of SaaS industry averages in customer support staff? – or have you direct experience on how to make a good estimate?

Here is my answer to him – I thought you might benefit from it, too…

This is a great question and I think you hit on a key point – you will have economies of scale to lower the cost over time. However, since there really is not a “SaaS Market” if you look at averages – and I’m sure someone has this data – it is likely a meaningless or highly misleading statistic. Why? Because support costs are 100% tied to your company and your market. Interestingly, you say this is a non-pricing issue – but after reading this you might think differently.

First, what does “support’ mean? For planning purposes you need to be very clear as to the level of support given, to whom, when, how frequently, and why they would need it, etc. You need to clearly break down all of that for each support area:

(Pre-)Sales Support – You’ll want to automate as much as possible to reach those economies of scale, but what is included pre-sales. Will you differentiate the level of pre-sales support for different market segments? Will some be able to move through the sales funnel on their own in an automated fashion, to a Pricing Page, then into the app,  while others will require more hands-on support? Who are those that fit into each of those categories?

On-Boarding Support – Once they are in the Free Trial or when they become a paying customer, what will you need to do for them or help them with? Will they need to seed the system with existing, legacy data? Will you need to help them customize the user experience, integrate with existing systems, etc.? Will some need this while others won’t? Is there a correlation to the types of users that can use the self-service sales process vs. those that need human interaction? How much of this could be revenue generating professional services? What is *expected* to be included with the fee and what is expected to be extra – by the different customer segments?

Initial Customer Support – Once they are on-board, what level of support will be required to get them going? For the automated/self-service folks, will a series of videos/screencasts be sufficient? Will you need a more guided, hand-held process for the other folks? What does that look like? Will there be an on-site consultation / training? Will you do this or will you build an ecosystem of trainers / consultants to handle this? What will those relationships look like?

(Ongoing) Technical Support – What does this mean? First level phone support, use of GetSatisfaction for community support, roadmap ideas, etc. Will you need different support levels for different customer types? Will a certain level be included but a higher level of support be extra? What is the expectation in the market? You can dictate much of this – its all about ensuring you align your value proposition with their value perception.

(Ongoing) Customer Support / Success – Training, Communications, Proactive Sales Support / Anti-Churn Activities, etc. What does this look like? Are there different customer segments that will have more needs in this area? Can you bundle any of this together for larger clients to 1) offset your costs and 2) add revenue (and hopefully profit) directly? What should be included in the base level to keep churn at bay? How can you leverage this to grow Monthly Recurring Revenue (MRR) and therefore Customer Lifetime Value (CLV)? For the purposes of planning, it might make sense to do so, but to be really successful and because we understand that the SaaS Business Architecture is a tightly-coupled machine – no silos here – Tech & Customer support should not be treated as separate!

Okay, so I’m not sure if I answered your question directly, but I hopefully got you thinking about this in the right way… yes, economies of scale do exist and over time you will be able to take advantage of those. Even in areas where its very high-touch, you’ll see that probably 80% of what you do is the same for each customer. Strive to automate that 80% – build it into the app, even if it is your “support” staff that is doing the work. That way, the 20% that is unique to the customer is of higher value and you can charge more for it.

If you’ve been in-market at least 6 months and are curious how we could Accelerate your Profitable Growth – including by increasing your Customer Retention – contact me and we’ll setup a time to discuss your options for moving your company forward.
– Lincoln
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  • Opt-In vs. Opt-Out Trials: The Hidden Impact on Customer Retention and Success
  • From Transactions to Relationships: Unleashing Customer Potential with AX
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  • The Role of Pods in CSM Coverage Models: The Evolving Landscape
  • Pooled CSMs: Benefits, Challenges, and Requirements for Success
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  • The Goal Discovery Framework for Customer Success Management
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  • Customer Success Scaling: Capacity Planning and Resource Allocation
  • Bridging the Engagement Gap: Keeping Customers Actively Invested
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  • Every Department Must Recognize the Value of Customer Success
  • Retention: Shifting from Reactive to Proactive to Stop Chasing and Start Leading
  • Why High Usage Doesn’t Guarantee Customer Success
  • Scaling Your Customer Success Team Without Losing Control
  • The Art and Science of Continuous Goal Alignment in Customer Success
  • Goal Discovery: The Essential Task You Never Had Time for (Until Now!)
  • Aligning Customer Success and Sales: Bridging the Great Divide
  • Motivating Action: The Hard Truth of Driving Customer Engagement
  • Customer Retention: Proactive, Reactive, and At-Risk Analysis
  • Navigating Partner Success in a Multi-Channel World
  • Unlocking Potential: How to Allocate Customers to CSMs
  • AX-Based Coverage Segments: Customer Success Evolved
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  • The Real Reason Your Company Invests in Customer Success
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  • Appropriate Experience is Required for Customer Success
  • What Are The Best Customer Success KPIs?
  • You Can’t Solve Upstream Problems Down Stream
  • Customer Success is a Simple Concept (Don’t Overthink It)
  • Customer Success can’t fit into Existing Frameworks
  • Those aren’t Problems. Those are Customers!
  • Customer Onboarding Success Secret: Don’t Overwhelm Customers
  • A QBR is NOT Required for Customer Success
  • Customer Success: The Importance of User or Customer Onboarding
  • How to Define Roles in Customer Success Management
  • Customer Success: High/Low/No Touch Customer Segmentation
  • Customer Success: Incorporating High/Low/No Touch into Onboarding
  • Customer Success: How to help Salespeople with Customer Segmentation
  • Customer Success: Determining Which Customers on which to Focus
  • Customer Success: Who Should Handle Upsells?
  • Customer Success: How to Reset Mismanaged Expectations
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  • Revenue Roadblocks: How We’re Sabotaging Our Own Growth
  • Good Fit vs. Bad Fit vs. Ideal Customers: The Key to Unlocking Sustainable Growth
  • Opt-In vs. Opt-Out Trials: The Hidden Impact on Customer Retention and Success
  • From Transactions to Relationships: Unleashing Customer Potential with AX
  • Renewal Psychology: From an Adversarial Process to a Celebration of Success
  • Pods in Customer Success vs. Sales: A Side-by-Side Comparison
  • The Role of Pods in CSM Coverage Models: The Evolving Landscape
  • Pooled CSMs: Benefits, Challenges, and Requirements for Success
  • Beyond Touch Levels: Scaling Customer Success through Appropriate Experience (AX)
  • The Goal Discovery Framework for Customer Success Management
  • Storytelling in Customer Success: Use the Power of Goal Discovery
  • Customer Success Scaling: Capacity Planning and Resource Allocation
  • Bridging the Engagement Gap: Keeping Customers Actively Invested
  • Build a Social Proof Machine: Consistently Generate Real Advocates at Scale
  • The Untapped Potential of Social Proof through Earned Advocacy
  • From KPIs to Connection: Transforming Metrics Into Meaningful Relationships
  • 5 Outdated Email Tactics You Need to Abandon in 2024
  • Every Department Must Recognize the Value of Customer Success
  • Retention: Shifting from Reactive to Proactive to Stop Chasing and Start Leading
  • Why High Usage Doesn’t Guarantee Customer Success
  • Scaling Your Customer Success Team Without Losing Control
  • The Art and Science of Continuous Goal Alignment in Customer Success
  • Goal Discovery: The Essential Task You Never Had Time for (Until Now!)
  • Aligning Customer Success and Sales: Bridging the Great Divide
  • Motivating Action: The Hard Truth of Driving Customer Engagement
  • Customer Retention: Proactive, Reactive, and At-Risk Analysis
  • Navigating Partner Success in a Multi-Channel World
  • Unlocking Potential: How to Allocate Customers to CSMs
  • AX-Based Coverage Segments: Customer Success Evolved
  • RevOps Evolved: The Key to Rapid, Exponential Revenue Growth (2024)
  • Redefining Email Engagement: New Metrics for a New Era (2024)
  • Understand, Classify, and Effectively Analyze Churn
  • Customer Negotiation: Discounts, Retention, and Value
  • The Art of Objection Handling in Customer Success
  • Driving Exponential Growth: The Art of Selling to Existing Customers
  • NRR Panic: The Rollercoaster Ride You Never Saw Coming
  • Motivation vs. Discipline: How Knowing the Difference Skyrockets Customer Engagement
  • Why CSM Positioning is so Important (and How to Fix it)
  • Customer Status: The Hidden Motivator You Can’t Ignore
  • The Power of Curiosity in Customer Success
  • Creating Customer Success Playbooks with ChatGPT
  • ChatGPT or Bing: Which AI Tool is Best for Customer Success
  • Customer Success Pros: Stay Ahead of the Game with ChatGPT
  • ChatGPT in Customer Success: Generative Output to Desired Outcome
  • Stop Teaching Your Customers to Ignore You! A Guide to Effective Customer Engagement
  • ChatGPT is a Customer Success Game-Changer
  • Growth Unlocked: The Key to Exponential Account Expansion
  • Customer Success: Defined (2024)
  • Stop Confusing Free Trials and Onboarding (It’s Costing You Customers)
  • The Importance of Consistency in Customer Success Management
  • The Real Reason Your Company Invests in Customer Success
  • Customers Hate These 3 Things (and How to Avoid Them)
  • The 5 Secrets of World-class Customer Success Managers
  • Customer Onboarding: How to Design and Implement an Effective Onboarding Process
  • Eliminate Churn Forever in 5 Simple Steps
  • Customer Success: The Lost Art of Churn Reason Analysis
  • Customer Success: How to Quantify the Impact of Bad-fit Customers
  • Customer Onboarding: How to Design and Implement an Effective Onboarding Process
  • Designing a Sales-to-CSM Handoff that Actually Works
  • What is a good SaaS Churn Rate?
  • Achieve Exponential Growth by Focusing on CAC Efficiency
  • TTFV as a Sales KPI to Drive Engagement and Expansion
  • Time to First Value (TTFV) is a Customer Onboarding Goal
  • Customer Onboarding: AHA! or WTF?
  • Emotional Disconnect During Customer Onboarding
  • Bad Sales Handoffs Cause Customers to Ghost During Onboarding
  • How to Know if Customers are Actually Ghosting you
  • Why Customers Ghost you
  • The Basics of Customer Onboarding
  • Success Potential: Real Customer Success Starts Here
  • Account Expansion: How to Upsell Unsuccessful Customers
  • Customer Growth: Why Lack Of Expansion Is A Really Bad Sign
  • Account Expansion: If You Want To Grow Fast, Do This…
  • Customer Growth: Upselling Hurts Trust (When You Do It Wrong)
  • Customer Growth: The Difference between Sales and Expansion
  • Introducing the BEAST Message Framework for Customer Engagement
  • Introducing the Customer Engagement Communication Model
  • Churn Classification Framework For Customer Success Management (2024 Update)
  • Customer Success and Sales: Why the Latter determines the Former
  • Appropriate Experience is Required for Customer Success
  • What Are The Best Customer Success KPIs?
  • You Can’t Solve Upstream Problems Down Stream
  • Customer Success is a Simple Concept (Don’t Overthink It)
  • Customer Success can’t fit into Existing Frameworks
  • Those aren’t Problems. Those are Customers!
  • Customer Onboarding Success Secret: Don’t Overwhelm Customers
  • A QBR is NOT Required for Customer Success
  • Customer Success: The Importance of User or Customer Onboarding
  • How to Define Roles in Customer Success Management
  • Customer Success: High/Low/No Touch Customer Segmentation
  • Customer Success: Incorporating High/Low/No Touch into Onboarding
  • Customer Success: How to help Salespeople with Customer Segmentation
  • Customer Success: Determining Which Customers on which to Focus
  • Customer Success: Who Should Handle Upsells?
  • Customer Success: How to Reset Mismanaged Expectations
  • Customer Success: Customer Engagement Across the Entire Lifecycle
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